Q: Is bicycling to class frat?
A: No. Never.
Q: Is it fratty to take a party date out to dinner before the party?
A: Yes, but we have to be careful to not hearken back days of high school…this isn’t senior prom. To alleviate this concern, the first thing to remember is that dinner is the first step in the night’s pre-drinking. This serves dual purposes. Besides getting the party started, so to speak, it also presents a great opportunity to show off your frattabbing prowess. We recommend going to eat in medium to large groups (frat packs) to create a party atmosphere wherever you decide to go.
Q: I understand the frat dress code for day to day activities. I’ve been wearing the horse, topsiders, etc. since I was a boy, but what about when we must get out and work?
A: The above question came from one of our fratty readers. Whenever you are doing what is considered work, Carharts (not the jeans) and boots should always be worn. Different kinds of boots can be worn depending on the weather and work conditions, as long as they are conservative in style and color. Shirts can range from old polo shirts to old, long sleeved sorority or fraternity party t-shirts in colder weather. If it is sunny, don’t forget the Costas and Croakies. You may be wondering, “What kind of work should a fratdaddy be doing?” Since fratdaddies are often from families that own large tracts of land, and also enjoy the great outdoors, they will often go out to erect deer stands and the like.
Q: Being a fraternity man, I’ve always questioned which is frattier: light beer or dark beer?
A: Dark beer is usually higher in alcohol, more full of flavor, and more expensive. These attributes make for an undoubtedly fratty beer. However, often domestic light beers are preferred among many hard fratters because they are easily attainable in large quantities which allows for more fratdaddies and sorostitutes to get drunktaneous. The short answer is all beer is fratty. The complex issue is knowing which is fratty in what situation. Although this is a complicated issue, a good rule of thumb is light beer is party beer, and dark beer is casual drinking beer. You’re not going to waste good dark beer shotgunning, and you’re not going to want to knock back multiple Guinesses at a band party.
Q: I’m a sorostitute, and I’m tired of shacking in my fratdaddy’s messy and smelly room at his frat castle. What should I do?
A: Remind him that he is a fratdaddy, and has an easy solution to this problem. He should have a pledge clean his room immediately.
Q: I am a freshman fratdaddy that has an American Eagle polo shirt left over from high school. It is solid blue with a small eagle on the breast where the Polo horse would be. It looks pretty much like every real Polo shirt I own, except for the different animal on the breast. Can I incorporate it into my fratty wardrobe?
A: In a phrase, absolutely not. The fratdaddy’s wardrobe is always passively telling the world about his station in life. When you wear the shirt you mention, you tell the world, “I’d like to be a fratdaddy, but I don’t know how.” Donate that shirt to a local thrift store, consult Fratting 101: Battle of the Polo Shirts, Lesson #4, and go buy a complete wardrobe fit for your new status as a fratdaddy.
Q: Recently while at a crowded bar, I noticed a fratty looking guy making out with some chick right in the middle of the bar. Is such PDA (public display of affection) fratty?
A: The true fratdaddy doesn’t need to validate himself by doing his thing at the bar. In fact, this is a common practice by douchebags who don’t understand that truly fratting hard means maintaining a respectful stance toward ladies in public. The fratdaddy knows that such activity should be reserved until he and his sorostitute of choice are back in his room at the Frat Castle. However, sometimes in a drunktaneous state a fratdaddy will involuntarily engage in such behavior. This is acceptable as long as it is kept to a minimum.
Q: I’m thinking about buying a Blackberry or similar PDA (personal digital assistant). Is this acceptable?
A: As an undergraduate, you should refrain from PDA’s. You don’t need a personal organizer when all you have to do is go to parties, get druntaneous, and show up for class on test days. However, fratdaddies, upon graduation, usually enter into professions where they have a great deal of power and responsibilities. The PDA is therefore acceptable as an accessory in the post-grad fratting environment.
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being a fraternity man, I’ve always questioned my drinking habits; light or dark beer? I’ve choosen Dark beer because, just as smoking cigars/pipes are always frattier than smoking ciggarettes, they also ad an extra punch, both in taste and alchohal. Light beers are clearly ment for shotgunning or giving to one’s GDI half friend that begged to come to ones own Frat castle (but is a 2 beer queer)
agree or disagree?
Thanks for the question. It will be added to the list next week with a complete answer. Stay tuned.
I’m sort of surprised that I have seen not one mention, perhaps I’ve missed it, of the frattiest of all things, which is being a part of a secret Greek society. In my opinion, being tapped as a frat All-Star is one of the frattiest things possible. Also, as far as shoes are concerned, the Sperry’s are being played out here in the South. The new frat shoe emerging is the Cole Haan Driving Shoe.
Frank,
Secret societies are undoubtedly fratty. It needs to be noted that being a member of one of these opens almost unlimited post-grad fratting potential.
We’ve been keeping our eye on the Cole Haan driving shoe. As it stands now, Topsiders are still the standard, but as we saw with Lacoste, even traditional frat powers can fall hard if they are adopted too heavily by GDI’s and douchebags.
Cole Haan loafers are not anything new. Everybody should have a pair and a pair (at least 1) of topsiders.
I agree that the classic Sperry Topsiders have started a downward slide as of late. The light soled Sebago is lesser known (and just as classic) and an extremely comfortable alternative that hasn’t been given the respect it deserves.
As for the driving shoe…I have a pair which I love, but I can’t see these as a replacement for the venerable Topsider any time in the near future.
Just a quick question…what is considered a fratty pair of jeans?
Good question, Chase.
Jeans are a little different from other items in the fratty universe because you can get away with a good number of different brand names. The key with jeans is always “conservative”. If you make sure you avoid anything but the most conventional of colors and styles, you will normally be OK.
As for specific brands, again, stick to the conventional. Levis, Carharts (mentioned above to be avoided while working…but only because of the preference to traditional Carhart pant in working environments, and not their style), and even Wranglers can be acceptable. Polo also makes good jeans, if you stick to their traditional styles…be wary that some Polo jeans are more “fashion forward”, and should thus be avoided.
should a frat guy be buff and ripped? so many frat guys are fat as fuck. ive noticed that the better in shape you are the more girls you will get even some gdi’s that are ripped get more girls than fat fratstar.what should i do?
Having a heart attack when you’re 24 is definitely not fratty, so you should keep yourself in acceptable shape. However, when working out, avoid common pitfalls of douchebaggery such as muscle shirts, bicycle pants, and any other unnecessary gear. A t-shirt and regular athletic shorts will suffice.
on the subject of working out and staying in shape, what would you say are some of the frattier sports in which to keep yourself in good physical condition? Also, some friends and I were debating the frattiest type of music, we decided that during the day it would be some sort of classic rock/jam band and rap at night. your thoughts?
I also had a couple of questions. In terms of fratty headwear, what is appropriate and when? Visors only when golfing? etc. In addition, are drugs considered fratty? As they do add an element of exclusivity and prevent total soberness…
One of the frattiest ways to stay in shape is playing golf and walking the course several times a week (preferably with a pledge to carry the clubs…we’re not training for a marathon, here). Other fratty sports include tennis, racquetball, and any other sport you can typically take part in at a country club.
Your music question is a bit more complex. We will be posting a guide to fratty music pretty soon, and will go more in depth, but we believe you’re currently on the right track.
Thomas,
Some staples of frat headwear include the faded white university cap, golf caps (Titleist is a personal favorite…if you’ve been to Augusta, a Masters’ hat is also good), or a brand name cap (i.e. plain colored hat with the pony) all work. The frattiness of visors can vary by region. If there’s any doubt, leave them alone when you’re not on the golf course (they are always acceptable there).
As for your second question, we here at FH do not condone drug use, as doing 5-10 in the state pen or pulling a John Belushi is most definitely not frat.
ANSWERS BETTER THAN DOUG CAN GIVE:
dark beer is more fratty because it is more expensive, better quality, and has more alcohol. in my personal opinion, cigarettes are not fratty while cigars are very fratty. cigars and dark beer are more fratty just as polo and brooks brothers are much much more fratty than abercrombie and american eagle.
also, i have come to the conclusion that visors beat hats.
as for jeans, any classic brand will work, be it carhartt, levi, wrangler, lee, whatever. the main thing with fratty jeans is that they must be ONLY BE BLUE, AND GET THE LIGHTEST COLOR BLUE YOU CAN FIND. also make sure your jeans are RELAXED OR TRADITIONAL FIT. baggy, “destroyed,” carpenter, painted, etc. are the ultimate signs of douchebaggery when it comes to jeans. Also remember that in your wardrobe, the number of khakis you own should far outweigh the number of jeans.
youre very welcome.
Is dipping Skoal fratty if not done around girls?
FTAC:
Yes. In fact, Skoal was our #1 seed in the miscellaneous bracket of the Frat Madness tournament (however, that match did show us that FH readers think sailing is frattier than Skoal).
Yall need a message board so I can talk shit again about Pikes and Lambda Chis like in the old days at the original fratty.net
Is Nautica fratty?
Doug,
What a fantastic site. Keep on fratting!
no, nautica is not fratty. nautica has long been a brand that wants to seem expensive just because they make collared shirts and have a sailboat logo. if you want a fratty “nautical” brand, Vineyard Vines is definitely the way to go.
Nautica has some items that appear borderline fratty, but not nearly enough to rubberstamp the brand with a categorical fratty designation.
The premise is rather simple…if a brand doesn’t make anything that you can’t get from an unquestionably fratty brand, there’s no reason to take the chance. Nautica falls into this category. They don’t do anything that Brooks Brothers, VV, Polo, etc. doesn’t do better.
As far as a fratfit goes, what is the choice of Belt?
Andrew, you have a few different options.
You can’t go wrong with a classic, traditional leather belt (http://www.brooksbrothers.com/images/Catalog/ProductImages/thumbnails/174F_th.jpg). The one in that picture is $98.00. Get two (brown and black).
Also, for more casual days, a D-ring belt can be the way to go (http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/049F.jpg, http://www.vineyardvines.com/images/site1/products/processed/4ABB100-424.424.detail.a.jpg) can be a great addition to a pair of shorts.
Also, if you’re ready to absolutely frat off the planet, check out Smathers & Branson belts (http://www.smathersandbranson.com/web/catalog.aspx?group=1). These are only $150 a piece, and recommend having at least two of them. Such fratty designs include Duck Hunting, Nautical Flags, Sailing, and Skiing.
E) Take the beer jump in your friends frathoe call up some sorostitutes and get trunktaneous on your yacht and forget about the rest of your day because you know that you will have a fratty job when you graduate.
I just recently recieved a bowtie from Brooks Brothers, Is the bowtie still accepted fratty attire to wear to my Frat Formal or Cocktail?
Dan,
A bowtie can be fratty, but requires attitude. If you can frat the bowtie, you are sure to be a fratdaddy who will be shacking at your formal or cocktail. Simply put, an already fratty person who frats the bowtie is taking frat to a whole new level. If you are confident with your fratbility, throw it on and shack it up. If now, re-read every single post on this site, learn what you need to know, then frat it up.
Disclaimer: we’ve been fratting hard since 7:00 PM est, so we’re slightly drunktaneous
All right, my fellow fratdaddies and I here have been wondering about a certain topic for quite some time now and can’t seem to find many answers. What are acceptably fratty genres of music? I’m sure that the musical style depends upon the fratmosphere (i.e. cocktails as opposed to large open parties). Any suggestions?
Also, one more question: What, if any at all, instruments could be considered fratty? So many douchebags and GDI’s decide to be broken-hearted guitar players, which is completely unfratty. However, many sorostitutes are turned on by this act of douchebaggery.
Doug, I have a quick question about racing. While outside of football season, on Sundays I think there is nothing better than sitting in the frat castle in front of the 70-inch HDTV and watching NASCAR with a case of Budweiser and getting drunktaneous. So I’m wondering, is NASCAR considered fratty? Or is it too redneck to be frat?
What are the rules when it comes to AIM? how much are you allowed to have in your profile and how much should you say in away messages?
FratLegend,
I think that like a lot of activities, how you go about your NASCAR fandom is the measure of its fratitude. Obviously, you’ve got the right idea, and I think the situation you describe is undeniably fratty. Whereas sitting and watching the race in your cut-off t-shirt on your old TV that you have to continually slap to get the picture straight is not frat, knocking back some frat water while taking it in on your HDTV is most definitely fratty.
kate,
Sorostitutes can get away with more on AIM than fratdaddies. While fratdaddies should avoid it, you can use it with few repercussions to your fratitude. Keep your profile short, and make sure that it doesn’t look like you’re still in high school.
Are wrist watches Fratty? and if so, what kind?
Also, When it comes to pants, flat-front or pleated?
doug, here are some entries you and your professors of fratology might want to look in to:
- fratty music
- fratty automobiles
- fratty footwear
im sure those would be helpful to many frattinghard.com visitors, myself included. thanks
thanks for the suggestions uofa. the fratty music section is already in the works, and your other suggestions will be looked into as well.
We’ve been having a frat debate for nearly six months now, and need it resolved. What is the opinion of the button down short sleeve polo? I beleive that it is a piece of frat attire reserved for the most confident of fratters, and is truly fratty if you wear it with confidence. Other brothers think it is never acceptable. Opinions?
A few brothers and I were thinking that since you had a contest on what was the Frattiest thing ever (Costas and Croakies) why not have say a contest on what we find to be the most douchebag thing ever……..any takers (I.E Gelled up hair, the evil A’s, etc….)
Zack,
The short sleeved button down has long been debated, and we’re glad to have your question so we can make a final ruling on it.
The short sleeved button up can be fratty if, and only if, the following conditions are met:
- It is to be restricted to the spring/summer months
- It must be conspicuously name brand
- It must be worn with shorts of unquestioned fratitude (such as Patagonia stand ups)
In addition, the following conditions will significantly increase the fratitude of the short sleeved button up:
- Pastel color
- Wear during outdoor activities such as a crawfish boil or party at the lake house
If you are in a situation where you are unsure about the frattiness of the article in question, we would advise going with a traditional polo or a long-sleeved button up with the sleeves rolled up. However, if you’re sure you’re in an atmosphere where you can frat it effectively, by all means, frat it as hard as you can.
theset,
Great idea. Such a competition would be both funny and educational. Keep a watch out, as this may come sooner rather than later.
hey doug, i am stuck at a school were greek life is not the best.(it sucks). the school is overran by far left douchebaggs who think frats rape girls an just pay for friends. Not to mention people within the greek community act like they are still in high school which is kinda pathetic. what are some things that i can do to make the situation better? (transferring is not an option)
Rusty,
It is an unfortunate reality that there are many universities out there that simply do not frat as hard as some others. That is one of the reasons this site exists: to encourage people to frat as hard as they can while alerting and educating fratdaddies and sorostitutes about the dangers of global douchebaggery.
In your situation, you have to work from the inside out. To make the Greek community frattier, first you have to make your own house frattier. Lead by example: as others see you reaping the rewards of fratting hard, they will follow. When you see douchebaggery, point it out and chastise the perpetrator. After a while, this will result in a paradigm change in your house as the fratitude around it increases.
After that, a process occurs that we call “fratmosis”. When one or more houses are fratting harder than other houses on a campus, other houses will absorb the excess fratitude and increase their own hard fratting in order to just survive. No one will want to join another house who is sponsoring PS3 tournaments while your house is having shot parties and shacking with hot sorostitutes. They must adapt to your frattiness to survive. It’s like Fratty Darwinism.
Fratty Music: OAR, DMB, Buffett.
Just reading over the comments, I saw a comment about NASCAR. Being a large Formula 1 fan, I was wondering if that is considered fratty?
Will:
Formula 1 is not a hobby that we have been asked about in the past, so we subjected it to our basic fratnalysis.
Formula 1 cars are, by far, the most expensive race cars on earth. Fratty.
Formula 1 races are often frequented by hot European groupies. Fratty.
There are some dangers (Jacques Villeneuve and his dyed, gelled hair come to mind), but we don’t see any reason that you can’t frat out with F1.
Doug-
I’ve decided to complete my fratty wardrobe with Croakies. However when i went to the website i couldn’t decide which would be the best frat move. Here’s my question: When it comes to Croakies, do you frat with the cords or the suiters? my fratty instincts tell me that it depends on the fratty activity but i need your guidance on this one.
frat icon,
It’s really your personal preference. First of all, you can go with actual Croakies or Costa Del Mar “croakies”. My personal pair at the moment is a Costas brand blue cloth.
I really like the cords in the summer.
The neoprene croakies get uncomfortable on the back of your neck when its hot out. The suiters are softer and a lot more comfortable i think.
Doug,
My friend and i just got into a conversation about whether smoking pot is fratty or not. My stance on the subject is that it is entirely fratty to pass a bowl around and swig on beers with a few fraternity brothers…you know, a little widespread panic playing in the background or something. My friend argues that smoking is trashy, for hippies, and should never even be associated with any frat star. Will you please preach him the truth..
DMB is not fratty, sorry. Widespread? Yes. Allman Brothers? Indeed. But while DMB could pull it off maybe ten years ago, when they were a semi-obscure UVa bar band, too many GDI’s worship at Dave’s altar.
Good call on Buffett, though. Very fratty.
are ecco boat shoes fratty? they are some of the most expesive shoes I’ve seen (more pricey than the billfish sperrys) not to mention their water resistant coat which actually WORKS as opposed to the cloth on sperrys. I need to know if these are fratastic or not.
The Ecco boat shoe (http://www2.ecco.com/ss2007/products/large/6475401195.jpg) itself is fratty. Just stay away from most of their other casual shoes, as some are pure douchebaggery.
oh absolutely, I own 2 pairs of ecco boat shoes that actually look frattier than the ones pictured but I would never wear their casual shoes unless I was a GDI in another life
on the question of music, perhaps this quick run-up of fratty bands will help.
The following bands are indisputably fratty:
allman brothers
ccr
grateful dead
alabama
bob seger
charlie daniels band
marshall tucker band
rolling stones
johnny cash
stevie ray vaughan
zz top
Reigning fratmusic kings are allman brothers and ccr, you really can’t go wrong this way.
In reference to a previous question as to whether playing the guitar is fratty(being a guitar playing fraternity man myself), I feel it all depends on the type of music you are playing. Some examples of what not to play include:
-Jack Johnson=Douchebag(also seems most GDI’s tend to thrive of this stuff during their lame attempts to serenate girls)
-Panic at the Disco - If I even need to address this for you, you’re at the wrong site.
-Anything related to the War in Iraq - If we wanted to hear intelligent political opinions we’d turn on Fox News.
What you SHOULD play:
-Most anything on classic rock stations(it’s called frat rock for a reason).
-OAR, Widespread Panic, some DMB(don’t go overboard with it like most GDI’s).
-Also any difficult songs that show off your fratastic ability to play are more than fine.
Dear Blue,
Your suggestions about guitar playing are almost as unfratty as frosted hair, as your brilliant misspelling of “serenade” highlights. Frattiness of an artist is never determined by douchebags’ affinity for it, because GDIs and other losers will always imitate the best (read fratdaddies). Jack Johnson and DMB are unquestionably fratty, despite their large GDI following. As for OAR and Widespread Panic, may I politely refer you to entry #4 in the GDI Field Guide as evidence against this music.
Because so many people seem to be unsure about what constitutes fratty music, I have collected a nice sample of fratty music for both day and night. Although this is by no means an exhaustive list, these artists are always a good choice:
Allman Brothers
CCR
Dave Matthews
Jimmy Buffett
Rolling Stones
Jack Johnson
Donavon Frankenreiter
Beach Boys
Kanye West
Jay-Z
Pharrell Williams
As us fratdaddies of the North are being hit with a mid-april winter storm and the patagonias are being brought out of retirement from what we thought was going to be spring about 2 weeks ago, I realize I’m very unsure on the issue of winter clothes during the true winter monthes. Basically when it’s double digits below 0, and the usual fratfit just can’t cover it, what is acceptable for headwear, gloves and shoes during this time?
Anon:
Check our post on jackets for some suggestions. For trudging through the snow, a good pair of LL Bean duck boots or heavy leather shitkickers may be in order.
Fratagonia makes some high quality gloves.
is surfing fratty? I’m a fratdaddy that hails from the beach and I grew up around the water. while my stepdad does have a 37 foot boat that we drink frat water on and fish, I also like to surf all of the time. the sorostitutes where I go to school (also by the beach) sometimes request lessons which leads to inevitable shacking, what’s your opinion on this?
Billy,
Another beach-dwelling fratdaddy asked about this on another post…I can give you this analogy: may douchebags surf, but not all surfers are douchebags. Although the style and attitudes of many surfers doesn’t represent the hobby well, there’s certainly no reason that you have to stop if you’re doing all the right things.
If you’re going out with the boat, surfing with sorostitutes, then shacking with said sorostitutes, you’re MAKING surfing fratty. That’s what a real fratdaddy should aspire to do…make anything he’s currently doing as fratty as it should be.
Frattier Than Thou,
I agree with everyone you listed for fratty music. The topic I was addressing was songs to play on guitar, not what music to listen to…there is a difference. If a fratty guitarist is limiting himself to the likes of Jack Johnson, he needs lessons.
How does one frat hard on a budget? While I know that the obvious answer is to opena frattab. However, when your tab is cut off, how can one still frat hard within their spending limitations.
are there any brands of sunglasses that frat hard? the GDI population where i live is ruining the costas.
also, what are the rules when it comes to fighting with GDIs in bars and in other settings, in order to keep it fratty as possible.
southern,
don’t give up the fight on the costas. GDI’s often try to adopt fratty wear, only to give it up soon for the next fad to come their way. If you want to get another brand anyway, we encourage a conservative pair of Ray Bans.
330,
It’s a hard thing when a fratdaddy finds himself low on funds. I would advise you to find a rich sorostitute and convince her you can give her a degree in MRS (of course, you don’t have to actually do this).
Doug,
Since I see so many posts on which music is fratty or not, I will pose this question: Is country music fratty? I know here in the south country music is pretty big and it happens to be my personal preference in music. I just wanted to see if I would be continuing to frat hard if I continued to listen to country music.
esweet,
As we said in our Fratty Music post, the situation, and your behavior therein, are more important than the music you choose. As long as you’re fratting hard in other areas while you listen to country music, you’re golden.
Of course, a lot of country music is fratty by nature anyway. Is there a better band party song than Whiskey River? Not many.
Prof. Neidermeyer
We all know that living in your khakis is fratty but what khakis are most fratty? Light or dark? Flat or pleated?
I landed a sweet internship this summer and I am curious how I can Frat it to the extreme in the workplace.
I just got into med school. Is that fratty?
I just got into medical school. Is this fratty?
Obviously pledgeship is a big part and the official start of all our lives as fratdaddies. That being said, would that make Sig Ep as a fraternity unfratty due to the fact that they don’t have a pledgeship? (not to mention theres more gelled up aberchrombie model wannabes in there than the gym at 11 pm on a saturday… or at least around my parts)
Agreed. I’m not downing on Sig Eps but here it looks they’re sponsored by Garnier Fructis.
I think that banana republic and colombia PFG shorts should be added to the Fratty attire for the summer.
Doug, I know there have been various posts clearly forbidding the wearing of wife beaters at anytime, but i was wondering, what if the wife beater is concealed at all times and cannot possibly be seen…i ask only because i prefer to wear wife beaters under my polos because i dislike the bulkiness of undershirts, but still like to have a little cushion…it has been maintained that the open showing of wife beaters is not fratty, but what if the beater is concealed? can i still frat hard?
uk fratdaddy,
It’s always important to note that fratting hard vs. not fratting hard is a balancing test. Doing something that isn’t explicitly fratty (and even some things that are explicitly not fratty) doesn’t automatically preclude you from fratting hard, although they can certainly impede your quest for a higher level of fratitude.
This balancing act must be formulated on a case by case basis depending on the amount of fratting hard going on weighed against the seriousness of the unfratty activity. If you’re fratting hard in a bar, and then go order a Zima, you instantly lose all fratitude you’ve acquired. If you’re fratting hard in a bar and then decide to stop buying because you’re afraid to frat tab all out, you’re fratting less hard, but balanced against your other activity this will probably not destroy your fratitude.
We have, and will continue, to endorse the plain white t-shirt for those who like undershirts. We do this mainly because of their popularity with douchebags. However, wearing a wife beater that is fully covered and unseeable to the outside world like you describe is the most minor of violations under our rules and suggestions. If you are fratting hard in all other areas of life, it is so insignificant that it will barely make a dent in your fratitude armor. The wife beater’s popularity among GDI’s, although troubling, will not seriously harm you as long as you always keep it covered.
After reading the rule on hooded sweatshirts i was troubled. I have a navy blue hooded sweatshirt that says Nantucket on it. I have always considered it extremely frat. Is this acceptable in any way?
John B,
You mine as well put a Moose or Hollister logo on it. You don’t have to have a shirt that says Nantucket to Frat Hard.
Unfortunately, the hooded sweatshirt is so rife with douche aura that it is literally dead to the frat world.
Doug, how come every time i hear some GDI/deuche bashing hardcore fratters, they say that the way we pop our collars and wear our visors cocked to the side is gay, when a true fratdaddy would never do those things in the first place. I just feel like people still have the wrong idea about us.
Fratsby,
The douchebag population is huge on propaganda. They, deep down, know their collar popping ways are incorrect, and try to pass it off on us.
Sorostitutes know better, though.
i see alot of other fraternities with fraternity hoodies..a hoody with their frat letters across it
What would you consider to be the frattiest brands of watches?
Doug,
Perhaps I’m showing my age, but when I was attending school and fratting extremely hard in the 90’s, Clarkes Wallabees brand of shoes were the most extreme form of frat shoe that could be worn. During the summer months, only the most confident of frat daddies would wear said Clarkes with shorts and no socks. I don’t see these much anymore. I’m thinking of breaking out my old Clarkes this summer. Would this be acceptable? Some of the newer generation may be puzzled by such footwear, but those who know….know that it’s a sign of someone who still truly frat’s hard. Again, what would your opinion be? Thanks.
Fellow frat stars:
I actually have two fashion questions for the gentlemen:
1) Shorts: Fratty or not fratty for the college aged sorostitute? (and of course I mean khakis….NOT jorts) Or are skirts still preferable?
2) Sunglasses: Are the huge sorostitute sunglasses actually unfratty? My boyfriend (of course a frat daddy) hates the big sunglasses, but allows me to wear them without comment because he believes they are fratty. What is the general consensus?
A Sorority Girl,
Yes khaki shorts are indeed fratty on ladies….and is not as often seen as a few years ago.
Unfortunately, the big sunglasses, however popular among greeks these days…are not fratty. They are a fashion trend from Hollywood types such as Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan….whom we all know are very unlady like and skanky.
i recently got a very fratty job at a marina. i was wondering what kind of fratty swimwear i should invest in to help impress the post-grad fratdaddies i will be around all summer.
Sorority Girl:
I see nothing wrong with shorts for a girl in casual situations, and you can extend past khakis to the equally fratty very short plaid shorts (great with a plain colored “boy style” Oxford to go to Friday class in).
As for the sunglasses…yes, they are a trend. The fratdaddy should be totally unphased by trends, but it is not realistic to ask females to also eschew all trend-driven fashions. However, this doesn’t mean YOU can’t rise above the pack. My sorostitute just bought two pairs of Costas…show your fratdaddy how fratty you can be, dump the huge shades, and pick up a frattier pair.
TrueSouth:
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Tri-9,
We still see Wallabees around, and although they have lost the lead in fratty footwear to Topsiders and driving mocs, I think they can still be worn with confidence…especially since you know and understand the history behind this important period of fratty footwear development.
Good question from 18th that was skipped… ive never been one to sport a watch but i’m looking into getting one… what are the frattiest watches
Shackdaddy,
Sorry I missed that…it’s a good question.
The difference between wearing a watch and fratting a watch is one of utility. Many people wear watches as pieces of jewelry. The fratdaddy wears a watch that simply doesn’t mess up his outfit…not one that he consciously gets to try to increase the frattiness of the outfit. It’s simply a time-telling piece.
A good one is one you could leave at home and no one would notice. I wear a plain silver watch with a black face. It’s not very big and rather non-descript. Pretty much you can get by with just about anything that doesn’t stand out.
what about the post-grad fratter, could an expensive watch not be used as a sign of status or success, especially in a power business meeting.
Yes…like many of the finer points of fratting hard, the status that comes with the high level post grad fratter allows you to move above and beyond normal everyday fratwear to facilitate such purchases as a watch that costs more than most people’s cars.
What degree of accessories/aftermarket parts are acceptable on a Frathoe?
In referring to fratty activities which fratdaddies engage in, I believe certain types of hunting should be thrown in. I recently went to Africa to hunt big game. Not only did I fly first class to and from the dark continent, but copious amounts of alcohol were consumed, all while wearing polo, even in the field. In this instance, I believe hunting is fratty. Plus, it brings back some pretty fratty stories
hey i am graduating from high school, and while most of my classmates, and friends that graduated before me are staying in state(north carolina), I am going to probably go to a school in either Georgia, South Carolina, or Alabama. I was just wondering what are examples of fraternities that frat hard in most southern colleges. I know at every different chapter, the fraternity is going to be different and a fraternity that is great at one school, might be awful at another, but what are some that in most colleges are really good fraternities. Thanks.
I am envisioning the frat scene as a bunch of 20 year old boys acting like they are 50 and have actually made it in life. I would compare it to a 12 year old wearing a suit and rolex to class. By the way, it was nice buying my Day-Date 50th anniversary gold ro-ro from a southern sweep helmet.
Keep up the fratting bro’s.
As for music, you need Pat Green and Robert Earl Keen are off the charts fratty. They have left the frat-o-sphere. You should drink a few frat waters and play some fratsketball.
As far as music, I think the new Old Spice comercial with Bruce Campbell is just as fratty as it gets.
as far as book bags go, is the messenger bag acceptable, or a backpack? there are plenty of GDI douchebags utilizing both. which is the frattiest?
a messenger bag is a staple of the douchebag uniform. fratty persons should steer clear from such an item. notable GDIs such as John & Lee Hotti and those of the like are frequently seen toting them about campus. i would give you the Gameday Exception if it were halloween and your costume was a douchebag/frisbee throwing GDI.
You should probably cut your balls off if this is a serious questions, considering they are producing no testoserone whatsoever. This is not an acceptable vehicle for a man, muchless, the elite of men, the Fratdaddy. If Chrysler supplies you with a fucking Jeep Liberty, see if they will throw in a sex change as well, because you might as well get one.
This is ridiculous. Since when does everyone feel the need to ask “is what I do fratty?,” as if you need some sort of validation from a website that you’re cool. Listen, if you frat, frat hard. If you don’t, well, not everyone can. Don’t sit here and ask stupid questions about your backpack or your car or accessories for your car. 90% of you sound like you douche harder than the guys at a Hollister store. This site used to be funny, now all you lame assholes who are taking this way too seriously are vagging up the place. I’m out.
Doug-
what would be considered “fratty attire” for a wine tasting event?
Dixie,
Depends on the event. Wine tastings can really vary in the type of dress they require, ranging from whatever you have on to formal events.
If your local wine store has a weekly tasting, you’ll be good with your daily frat-wear. If it’s a special event, you probably want to check to see what is expected.
My dad owns a large car dealership, so he always has kept me supplied with 2 new vehicles. currently I have a Frathoe( a z71 tahoe) but i also have a pickup truck ( a 1500 silverado). From personal experience I have found that pickup trucks are very useful at the frathouse. The beds are by far the easiest way to transfer kegs and large amounts of pledges ( especially in the winter months to really fuck them up), as well as if they interior has 2 benches, can hold many people inside. I think that as long as it is a full size pickup truck, and doesn’t have rims, or any gay modifications like that, or isnt some foreign shit, the pickup truck is a fratty vehicle. I think this site should mention other vehicles that are fratty, because, having at least one pickup truck available makes things makes many things less complicated.
Question on fratty sunglasses, are oakleys (with croakies) considered not fratty? And for running/activity shoes, is there a reason why nikes are considered less fratty compared to new balance or other brands?
Oakley makes sunglasses with flames on them, so in short, they are also part of the D-Bag uniform. Anyone who has Oakleys has a high chance of having a barbed-wire tattoo around their arm and multiple pairs of sleeveless t-shirts. The only pair of acceptable Oakleys are the M-frames that are standard issued to baseball players. Even they shouldnt wear them when not on the diamond.
was wondering what everyone’s take was on the white under shirt when wearing a polo , i wear it some days, but now i wear them less and less
the undershirt isn’t advised, but the reality is some people just prefer it… just make sure it is only white
in response to Oakleys being fratty or not, if and ONLY if you are sporting a an early 90s pair of Razorblades or Frog Skins (which are both discontinued) unfortunately. Ebay them for further information. Good day
Big Money,
Oakleys were money back then. It’s sad to see that they have fallen so far so quickly.
Haha, i can’t believe you guys think Abercrombie is totally douche! I work there and have banged probably 10 x more hotter girls than any of you guys ever have. What jokes.
im sure you have guy, your so cool
its true, not to mention i go to a very expensive private school in the north, and if anyone was seen wearing croakies or shorts three inches above their knees… it would be an immediate brand of faggotry… this website def applies more to southern redneck/hick schools… and not to mention education sucks in the south, its a proven statistic. So while you southern kids think you’re sooo cool slaying pussy that is so dumb they would mistaken John McCain for Dick Cheney, I’m actually learning things and slaying the future female business leaders of America.
Hey Casanova, what we discuss is something you couldn’t understand. You use your sister’s hair gel and wear her diamond earrings and think that pulls ass. Take your douchebag self back up north and leave this site. I hear Edward Kennedy is driving some people to the lake this weekend. You sould hitch a ride in his trunk.
Sorry I couldn’t be present to provide a rebuttal for casadouche’s comment sooner… At 11:41 on a Friday night, I (as well as most other fratstars) was at the bar running up a choice frattab while determing which Sorostitute would be accompanying myself back to the Castle… Obviously Mr. GDI wouldn’t know about that even though he “bangs probably 10x hotter girls”… I smell bullshit
casanova,
Congratulations on banging “more hotter” chicks. I encourage you to try to see the frat light when you get to a “more higher” grade in junior high.
and don’t speak of the north as if you represent us… you’re embarrassing to us casanova
Lol are you serious???? HAHA, for one i dont use hair gel, for two, your puny attempts of comebacks are completely pathetic! For 3, im no GDI, I happen to be part of one of the largest National Social Fraternities. Four, it’s summer… you can go out any night no just Fri and Sat, because I don’t work! Haha. Not to mention i’m not in junior high either, i’ll be a junior at a college half of you wouldnt have good enough SATs to get into.
Think next time, think!
we all really wish we were you
“Four, it’s summer… you can go out any night NO just Fri and Sat…” Good thing your SAT didn’t include a writing/grammar section…
Is “National Social Fraternity” one of those gay business school frats where you all study together and wear your letters on huge hooded sweat shirts? I’m in a Frat, not a National Social Fraternity…
People like Casanova are unfortunately the rule rather than the exception in the North.
Nevertheless, don’t let his misrepresentation of northern fraternity life whitewash your notion of what goes on up here. I go to a particular Ivy League school where anyone who wears hair gel, cargo shorts, American Eagle, or Abercormbie and Fitch has a snowflake’s chance in hell of getting into a first or second-tier fraternity.
And Matt, if you have any respect for your Fraternity, I’d start calling it that. The word “Frat” is a nasty noun, and misnomers are for GDI’s.
Is having one or two tattoos an ok fratty thing to do?
NIF- great point
Bob- No
on the topic of jeans. Are seven for all mankind and diesel jeans fratty?
Good One, OSU Frat… For those who didn’t get the joke, Diesel jeans are definitley NOT fratastic. hahaha
What kind of jeans are fratty?
Are light pink polo shirts fratty?
I would say Cremieux Jeans, Polo Jeans, and even Wranglers are the frattiest jeans. One red flag of Douchebaggery is Abercrombie or Holister jeans that have holes or paint on them. Keep this in mind. And to answer the frat daddy “John”, as long as your light pink polo doesn’t have a Moose or Seagull on the chest, I would say yes.
John,
Sure, but don’t wear one every 3 days like some douchebags do.
Jeans: The brand doesn’t matter as much as the style…and the style should be much the same as it was 50 years ago. Anything from Polos down to Wranglers will do.
Im preparing for a major change, but I am confused which major will ensure the frattiest college experience, and career. Which is more fratty, Business or Aviation?
I know that jewelry and whatnot is a symbol of complete douchebaggery, but what about watches? Especially for those of us getting older, it seems like they would be acceptable. If so, what brands are acceptable?
Watches are acceptable frat-gear as long as they are simple. This doesn’t mean, however, that they have to be cheap. Just get a nice, simple watch that doesn’t flash out of your wardrobe and you will be fine.
who is the frattiest of all the presidential candidates, a brother and i were arguing over this the other day while watching fox news. he was saying its rudy giuliani r-New York and i say its bill richardson d-New Mexico
when people refer to PIkE are they referring to pi kappa phi or pi kappa alpha? At my school pi kappa phi is a bunch of GDIs but pi kappa alpha is pretty good, they throw good parties.
Pike = Pi Kappa Alpha
Giualani is much frattier, liberal is def not frat
Alright i was just wondering because in my home state they are refferred to as PiKA, instead of Pike, but i didn’t see anyone call it that on the site, leading me to ask.
guiliani is a liberal, do your homework, richardson opposes gun control and opposes same sex marriage; guiliani favors both of those, richardson is delta tau delta from tufts university and guiliani is phi rho pi (speech fraternity) from manhattan college - richardson by far the frattier
being a republican means you are in favor of a government that tends to favor big business and put less restrictions on the economy, and is more lax about environmental regulations, allowing companies to be able to put money into other aspects of their company, not appeasing tree hugging liberals. considering the fact that a significant percentage of frat alumni run these big businesses, and us fratdiaddies will be in charge of them soon enough, favoring a form of government that will allow maximum growth for our carreers is alot frattier than voting for someone because they will keep gays from getting married. I mean im pro guns and anti-gay marriage, but i think having a government that is more receptive to my future carreer goals and prospects is alot more important than smaller issues like that. Therefore any republican candidate is frattier than any democratic candidate. Even though Bill Clinton’s tendency to shack with females other than his hideous wife gives the democratic party some redeeming frattiness
the frattier of the two is richardson, he was in a real fraternity as opposed to the liberal new yorker who once dressed in drag
Chris Dodd is easily the frattiest of the Dems. He is the only true “Silver Fox,” of the group, and I think it would be fair to say that establishing one self as such is reaching Grandfratdaddy status.
where does j.crew rank on frattiness and is it acceptable?
as for winterwear, aside from north face, are carhartt jackets ok