Widespread Panic
To the surprise of no one, Widespread Panic takes the top spot in our frattiest bands countdown. These jam band masters hail from Athens, Georgia (itself a long respected fortress of fratitude), and have drawn sold out crowds of fratdaddies from all across the nation for over 20 years.
No, not every fan of this band is a grade A fratdaddy. However, the same is true for any band that has ever picked up a guitar. The truth is that Widespread earned their place on this list based not solely on their music, but rather for their impact on fratty culture as a whole. These gentlemen carved a niche in the fratmosphere for bands of their genre. They took the spirit of the Grateful Dead and dressed it up in a polo and Topsiders. It made their brand of music standard on a huge percentage of fratdaddies’ playlists for a day out on the lake, or when just cruising in the Frathoe. It made events like Bonnaroo fratty, snatching such events from the sole possession of hippies and other such unbathing GDI’s. This is the band that showed the world a 90-thousand-person strong CD release party. They have inspired numerous fratdaddies to spend relaxing evenings at the fratcastle with a case of fratwater, five sorostitutes, and a couple of guitars.
In short, Widespread isn’t just a band. It’s a cultural symbol.
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It’s about time. Glad to see they made the list
undeniable
Great choice. And if you had gone a little further on your Google Image search, you might even could have found a picture of the actual band, rather than just the lead singer with a different group.
Fixed.
John Bell
SigEp at UGA in early 80’s
What about me? You blew it
Great choice, and Jimmy they said no individuals
What a shocker.
No suprise or suspense with this choice, nor should there be. I don’t know if there’s been a better music scene than 1980’s Athens. Glad you replaced the picture to include Michael Houser. Jimmy, you’re fratty, but Panic sings about Whiskey & Tallboys, not rum & sponge cakes.
I’ll be the first to say that, while I agree with a lot of stuff on this site, I don’t get WSP. Reminds me of hippie music (i.e. Phish). And I’m not talking about whether the guys in the band are fratty or hippie, but the sound. I’ve seen WSP referenced as Southern Rock, which is absurd… Allman is Southern Rock. WSP is Phish singing about frattier stuff.
Good.
what about alabama?
Jesus Christ! such a great write up. I finally understand what took so fucking long. Couple that with what someone pointed out earlier, that you had a wrong picture up, and you’re a plan A jackass Doug! better go get some more “hair product” from the store before tomorrow morning!
notice that the one person arguing with the choice of WSP as number one fratty band is someone named “NorthernFratty”… THERE IS NO SUCH THING. “Greek life” outside the southeast is actually anything but fratty. in reality, it beautifully exemplifies douchebaggery as otherwise illustrated by GDI’s in the South.
I don’t know if this belongs here or not. But I think that the next countdown should be fratty cars. Don’t make all the cars on the list frathoe types (ex. Tahoe, Navigator, etc.) but rather 1. Frathoe, 2. Lexus, so on and so forth.
Great countdown, all great bands. Alabama is a very great band but not so much fratty except for Sweet Home Alabama.
i believe it was lynyrd skynyrd who sang sweet home alabama…typical tide fan
Did someone really just say that Alabama sings Sweet Home Alabama? I don’t know where to begin…
Jesus Christ! such a great write up. I finally understand what took so fucking long. Couple that with what someone pointed out earlier, that you had a wrong picture up, and you’re a plan A jackass Doug! better go get some more “hair product” from the store before tomorrow morning!
Hey guys, I’m really sorry about the new articles not being up like I said they were going to be. We had some software issues, but I’m still very sorry about saying they were going to be up, and then it not happening.
We’re trying to get stuff fixed, but it’s hard when you don’t have any computer nerds on staff.
allow me to begin for you… vv how are you from alabama and not familiar with alabama the band or with skynyrd? what fraternity are you in over there?
I think he’s Alpha Phi Omega. There’s no way he can be part of a social fraternity. Fuck ‘Bama, War Eagle.
i hope this isnt your full time job doug…
I understand that fraternities are big in the south and yes I can accept the fact that that as a region there is far more greek pride etc. Nevertheless, not only southern people can frat hard. Now after reading many of the posts listed on this site I have observed the extreme ignorance of many southerner’s so I can forgive you for your short comings. I will not deny that the south frats harder than any other place, but as long as a school has a strong greek system and the Fraternities have an adequate pledge-ship than the people with in that greek system can indeed frat hard. Also, Why is it that the school that has the largest percentage of participation in greek life in the nation is in the North? And WSP is not that good, Doug get a real job and stop running a website. That is all, this site sucks.
what school is that? i hope you aren’t using “participation in greek life” in application to students in honors fraternities.
Who said Sweet Home Alabama is by Alabama? How ignorant, it’s clearly by the Steve Miller Band. Jackass.
It’s my 21st today, so I don’t know what I’m doing inside right now.
Carl. Out.
Doug,
I liked the idea of the countdown on best Fraternity House. I go to VT and the houses here all suck…period.
I know they are not a “party” band and they are heavily followed by GDI fags, I am in know way saying they have a place on this countdown, but I think Tool is one of my favorite bands of all time. Do any other fratstars enjoy Tool?
I am kind of a closet fan
Believe it or not Cornell, Dartmouth (where beer pong was invented for good or bad) and a few other northern schools have ridiculously large percentage and numbers of “social” GLO’s. Cornell has almost 50 houses and most of them have serious fratcastles which in terms of age and architecture are among the best frat castles in the country.
Both schools are about 35-40% Greek, which is the highest level in the nation. They also each have a half dozen to a dozen secret societies that have produced very influential people. The better fraternities have people that were wearing fratty clothes and from fratty families long before there was a word “fratty”. There are some low brow houses with gel heads or the NY beanie bunch, but it is mostly houses with generations of Coors, (SC) Johnson, Rockefeller, Mellon, Koch, McGraw, Scaife, Tafts, Dulles as well as people from good, bankable families…
At Harvard the old fraternities decided they were too good for the other chapters and became independent “final clubs” with outrageous costs, very traditional and very geared towards making people who are ready to run the top investment houses and law firms which is pretty damn fratty.
These schools have big university clubs in New York’s financial district where there are also Greek fraternity clubs across the street from Brooks Brothers and other fratty stores, even hunting outfitters, and big banks and law firms.
These schools have their own fratty stores for different schools like Andover shop, J. Press, Langrock not to mention Brooks (before it was bought by a chain retailer and had stores in the South.)
They have big rivalries and tailgating, it just that their athletes are more fratty.
I’m a proud Southerner but I wouldn’t be so fast to say fratty only exists in the South. It shows that you haven’t been anywhere and if you did you hung with the wrong people.
TOOL ROX!!! FRAT FRAT FRAT!!!
TennesseeWhiskey,
don’t have a job. I live a life of leisure.
I am a big Tool fan, although admittedly it is not one of my frattiest traits.
Just got a new pair of Costas the other day, although I am thinking I should have stuck with the Ray Bans. Keep fratting hard kids!
frattiest fraternity house. would make a great countdown. i dont go there but iv seen pictures of sigma chi at purdue. check it out
I just heard at a workshop this weekend that Sigma Chi at arkansas university has 250 people in it. has anyone ever heard of a bigger house? Im sure the SAE’s somewhere have a bigger chapter.
Tool is definately awesome, I am very much in agreeance with TheShorterTheFrattier, not one of my frattiest traits but still good stuff.
For the record, I just bought a new pair of Maui Jims ….they are superb. Not to take away from costa’s or ray bans, but these are fratastic.
http://www.mauijim.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product3_10101_10001_10227_-1_11101_11101_Y__3_3_#
perhaps its because ive been drinking for two hours now but fuck, @otis i could not follow your post at all. it is way too long. but sounds good. ill go out on a limb and say i partially agree with ou withougt fully knowing what you were saying. and nobama yous uck. those mauis are fagtastic, perfet for faginas like you. shit.
TennesseeWhiskey
You are perhaps the biggest buttfucker in north america, You are half the reason this site is starting to suck. All you do is read shit and say how fagtastic it is. Quit being such a fagmaster flex and get the fuck off this website.
McFrattstein sounds both Irish Jew. I’m not dissagreeing with what you said to TennesseeWhiskey I just thought that was kind of funny.
@Otis: The Harvard, Yale, and Cornell clubs in New York City you reference are not in the financial district. They are in Midtown. The financial district is, appropriately enough, in the Southernmost part of Manhattan
also i know of schools with higher than 35 to 40% greek so wrong again on that
1906icecold
I’ve heard there is an ACCACIA chapter at Penn State that boasts to be the biggest chapter of anything, some 400+ “brothers” i’ve heard. Not greek letter tho. I know FSU Pike is packing 200 of the sexiest d-bags that university can offer, all just social clubs in my mind. My grandfather was hardcore frat and he couldn’t believe how big frats are getting, he talked about how his house was one of the biggest at 40, best of the best type of thing. Pledging was a year long process where they were all required to live in the house while doing so… They did it right.
Tri-Lamb Sucks.
DePauw University has the highest percentage of fraternity and sorority involvement in the country. It reached 80% in past years, and is now at 69%. Oh yeah and it’s in Indiana.
actually i believe SMU in Dallas, Tx is nearly 90% greek, maybe i’m wrong, but i doubt it
“About 2,000 students, approximately 35% of our undergraduate students, are fraternity and sorority members at SMU.” I copied that from their website OTIS ALLEN, they may have a 90% illiteracy rate though.
Well said @otis… some (not all) posters on here knock the Northern schools / frats as being nothing but GDI’s when those schools and their traditions set the standard that everyone else imitates. The frattiest names in the US are mostly Northern (hell, look at Bush… Yale, Harvard, family compound in Maine). Brooks Brothers set the standard for fratty clothing many years ago (before Ralph Lauren copied it), and where are they from? All the Ivy League schools are in the North… and being in a good frat at an Ivy is pretty much the definition of tradition.
Not knocking the South and its schools, but some people on here need to show a bit more respect for where their Vineyard Vines shorts and ties or their Brooks polos came from.
What they do up North is “preppy” and it is a different beast. Related, yes, but distinguishable. No preppy would ever go to a state school, regardless of how good, but every preppy worth his salt has sure as hell gone to boarding school.
Seems like they are mostly distinguishable based on superficial differences… sunglasses, short lengths, etc. Fundamentally preppy and fratty seem pretty damn similar, which is why it seems so ignorant to knock Northern frats. The list of stuff on here that’s from the North, be it clothes, fratty jobs (finance, law firms, doctors), summer houses… a lot of the best of these things are in the Northeast. And a lot of people doing those things came from frats / clubs at Northern schools.
That all being said, WSP was still a bad choice. Allman / Skynyrd at #2 was solid though… at least we agree on that.
Why is it that every northern viewer of this site gets their panties in a wad whenever anything is said about the north? It’s not necesary to argue how the north is just as totally FrAtAsTiC as the south. You know nobody gives s shit.
wow.. that vv guy up there is such a disgrace to alabama.. he prolly doesn’t even go here.. im actually assuming 14 is his year.. so hes like 15 haha
I was responding to an above post knocking frats in the north and saying they’re the same as GDI’s in the south… if someone’s going to make ignorant comments without understanding what the f’ they are talking about or where the stuff they think is so fratty comes from in the first place, then it deserves a reply.
I don’t necessarily disagree, NorthernFratty. Nantucket frats hard as shit. Manhattan, guido as it may be, is where the best investment bankers and lawyers work. They make a lot more money than their southern counterparts, too, because everything is more expensive in New York. What I’m saying is that the semantic term “fratty” does not have a lot of cultural currency up there. In fact, many of the Northerners who are the “frattiest” went to small new england colleges that don’t even have frats (I’m specifically referring to Williams, Middlebury, Trinity and their ilk).
Point well taken Dave.
What happened to TennesseWhiskey? Thought we were gonna get a good ole fashioned pissin’ contest when Fratty called him a buttfucker. By the way, haven’t heard the buttfucker insult used in quite a long time. Kind of funny.
Dave: right, midtown- by Grand Central Station. Country Day schools and Episcopal and Quaker schools, not just boarding schools. University of Virginia (increasingly Yankeefied) and Michigan may be exceptions.
DePauw: 69%? Wow. In terms of numbers Illinois is #1, Cornell #2, Purdue #3. Cornell has far lower enrollment. Most SEC, ACC schools are in 20% range give or take. (Selectivity needed at public schools.)
North- more history and prestige. South not threatened to be overrun by beanies, gel heads and immigrants. Also Southern post grad fratting more relaxed and less costly than northern post grad fratting. Evens out.
Oh, and WSP as #1, not sure about that on Doug but appreciate the site nonetheless.
i hope to all things that are holy that douglas NEVER does another countdown. while i feel this one was particularly good, countdowns fucking suck. too much of that shit on vh1 and E! and i don’t think this site is as low as that garbage. leave it for the gdi douches up north to watch. but, like i mentioned earlier:if you make another countdown-frattiest drug.
and to all bitching and being generally butt hurt about the civil war between who can frat harder-north v. south, i have one thing to say. doug niedermeyer and eric stratton, founders of fratting hard attended Faber College. that’s out in Oregon. d’uh.
90 percent greek is not a good think, dumbass. what happened to selectivity
WSP is mediocre
Tool sucks
Why am I drunk and taking the time to post this shit
The Sigma Chi chapter is huge at Fayeteville, I saw Juvenille play there row week 2008, but thier not on the row, and I did see juvenille 05 spring break in so. padre senior yr in high school
Sigma Pi at penn state has the best house in the nation, I saw a youtube video with 750+ people behind thier house while they were playing Ohio, one of the guys smashed a pike from ohio in the face with a beer bottle, and he deserved it, pikes arent a real fratenity, more like a secret society for homosexuals that are to insecure to even come out of the closet, so they go on to live unhappy lives, and beat thier wives and kids
Racial slurs are acceptable but only if they offened somebody
pound freestone light through the funell 3 at a time and piss on pledges
the north is full of d-bags, so is the south, but not nearly as many get over it
i think you’re all missing what is perhaps the frattiest school in the nation… Washington & Lee. home to two alpha chapters, including Kappa Alpha ORDER (though one of my chapter’s rivals, i’ll admit they are pretty darn fratty), not the KA Fraternity (far less fratty, in general) anyway, it’s a very selective school to start with with an extremely strong greek system (80%+, for the last 80 years at least), which as someone pointed out, is not always a good thing, which i’m sure is true at depauw or whatever that school in IN was. W&L is excessively fratty (if that’s possible) as are many of the smaller private schools in the South that don’t have dry campuses
all that said percentage-wise the south is on top in frattiness, plus our worst side (rednecks) is a lot better/frattier than the worst side of the north (guidos), due to natural activities such as hunting, fishing, drinking whiskey/bourbon, chewing tobacco, an affinity for lakeside drinking, large weddings with open bars, love of college football over pro football, and never having used any of the following: glowsticks, hair gel, spray-on tan, world of warcraft, cranberry vodka…
bottom lime: give me a room full of rednecks over a room full of guidos any day of the week.
anyone know of any tight beachside resorts in Panama City or Destin? (one preferrably that has a pool with a bar you can swim up to). Me and some of the bros are rollin down there a week before work week comin up.
1906
http://www.boardwalkbeachresort.com/condo.html
Stayed here for spring break back in 06′.
Make sure you stay in the high rise condominiums, little more expensive but well worth it.
the only thing positive about rednecks is the fact that they’re America’s last line of defense in the completely impossible chance that someone conquers the home front
just another positive over the guidos… i’m telling you, rednecks are just frattin’ on a budget, i think you’ve got them confused with “white trash” that wears jean shorts, drives a camaro, sports tim tebow tattoos and has sattelite TV despite living in a trailer.
Rednecks, on the other hand, wear carharts, drive huge trucks, have the Browning deer symbol as a tattoos, and live in houses to big to for them in the middle of nowhere. not perfect, but far superior to aforementioned “white trash”
I just found out Affliction is the MMA fighter Chuck Liddel’s clothing label….Guidos never cease to amaze me.
they also do not dissapoint….
I was at a bar in missouri this weekend for a EX convention and a dude with a soul patch, frosted tip hair and a “TapOut” shirt bought me my friend jagerbombs. I havent had jager since I was forced to drink a 750 of it when I was a pledge. It brough back some good memories of getting my balls hazed, but I would like to show jokers pencil trick to whoever invented that shit.
SCfratter I see where you’re coming from, but I make a strong disctinction between rednecks, white trash, and good old country boys.
Im pretty sure the KKK’s Revival was in Indiana, actually im positive. So our downside isn’t guito’s. And Washington Lee may indeed be frat, but it dramatically falls short from the top because only 30% of men and 15% of women live in the frat castle. Also I agree that too high of a greek population is not good. But you also have to understand that the people that come to schools with high greek percentages do that knowingly, and thus people that come to the school intend on joining a frat. Selectivity point well taken though.
my reference to guidos was more meant to be a comparison with the Northeast, IN definitely has a bigger problem with “white trash” than with gelhead, weightlifting allstars.
not living in the frat castle doesn’t mean you can’t be fratrageous… everyone should be spending their time there anyway, and as they disperse its another opportunity to expand the fratmosphere… but you’re right, that wouldn’t be the first choice, they would be better served to live in their houses. but I would contend that one of a frat daddy’s best qualities should be his ability to identify the potential in any situation…
Our next countdown is frattiest countdowns.
Seriously, the next thing up for this site may be a re-design…sooner rather than later. I’ve never been completely happy with the way this one looks.
In response to all of the Northern/Southern debate, essentially we need to agree that there are positive and negative fratty aspects to both. I will concede that our downside (Guidos) is a hell of a lot worse than that of the South. However, I can’t imagine anything more fratty than boarding school, then fratting hard at an Ivy League school, and then garnering a fratty analyst position at an investment bank or a law firm in NYC. I had plenty of friends who went to UGA and other frattastic schools in the South and their fratting is inspired and true to the fratty core. But in the end, a fratwater is a fratwater and a fratcastle is a fratcastle whether you’re in the North or South. I’m a post-grad fratter and am not asking for any type of veneration, but rather trying to elucidate the rift that is developing in these comments. Have we forgotten that part of fratting is about brotherhood? Considering that I went to an Ivy League school, I’ll even agree that our frats are closer to social clubs than those in the South. But no self-respecting fratter can deny that being constantly surrounded by Plan A’s with enough money to buy multiple summer houses in fratcastles that boast some of the nicest and oldest architecture in the country is undeniably fratty. As an aside, WSP is an excellent choice. Claiming that WSP is “Phish with frattier lyrics” is just plain ignorant. Keep up the good struggle, Doug.
worst comments ever. seriously, who gives a fuck? we all know that the south is fratty and the north is not. red necks are good fun to drink with or have by your side in a bar brawl. but i wouldnt want to hang out with them on a daily basis. south does have EXTREMELY dumb minorities however.
please PLEASE stop douching up frattinghard. that includes you SCfratter, DePauwFag and 1906icecold, just go elsewhere with your high school comments. your convo has happened 9 billion times here.
SOMEONE PLEASE BRING BACK UFPIKE4LIFE
my comments were directed at clearing up something that hadn’t previously been pointed out, i know there are some serious frat daddies in the north and i have more in common with them than a lot of people in the south… but if i can’t support my home then what do i have?
talk about douching up? reagenfrat had nicely summarized the discussion (the purpose of the discussion board) and you come back with you’re uncalled-for angst and shorted words like “convo”, now that’s high school…
ThetaXi,
taking these comments as serious as you indicates you are in fact a guido douchebag. e-peen.
Can’t we all just be e-friends?
Dear fratstars,
Is it still okay to wear my 13″ American Eagle seersucker shorts or should I get them hemmed up to like 10″ even 9″ if I’m feeling fratty
lulerz cupcakes
the cost of the hem would probably be more than the cost of those cheap pieces of shit in the first place, just throw them out
American Eagle?
But brahs theyre thuper fratty!
what are the frattiest cars?
ThetaXi guy is right. You three write really stupid shit on here. I bet that most everyone scrolls on down through your stupid arguments about the north/south. Back when this site had discussion boards, that argument went on for ever and I think it is out dated. South is fratty, north is not, accept it.
Really though, just stop writing things d-bags. Go hunting with Dick Cheney.
I can’t stand carpetbaggers.
Quality Has No Address. Lick my tip ThetaXi.
Ive never even heard of theta xi, what school do you go to?
These are my amateur picks for top five frattiest bands.
1. Widespread Panic
2. Black Crowes
3. The Allman Brothers Band
4. Little Feat
5. Blues Travelers
These are the top five bands liked to hear coming from my house as I walk up the hill to it on a sunny Friday afternoon after classes. It was always a great way to start the weekend.
Yea I know it is actually Blues Traveler, without the S. Whoops.
What’s your house anthem in terms of WSP, what song says, “fuck class, I may have just woke up, but now I am getting drunker than shit, I will see you when you hook up with some plan As after passing out and ripping 2 rails of blow and going straight to bed” (but staying up) what the fuck about that Doug?!?!?!?!?
dear d-bags,
i am not actually a theta xi, i am a sig nu at ole miss. fuck ya’ll for not picking that up earlier, ive admitted five or six times already. theta xi is really fucking gay.
your pal,
thetaxipownz
You should do a frattiest colleges list, not just by percent of people in frats, but you believe has the best atmosphere overall.
the Princeton review has rated 366 top colleges over various things such as most academic, most conservative, happiest students, etc… they also did the top 10 “frattiest” schools. Here they are, #1 being the allegedly frattiest.
1.) Birmingham - Southern College
2.) Wofford College
3.) Bucknell University
4.) Transylvania University
5.) University of Mississippi
6.) Pennsylvania State Univ. - University Park
7.) DePauw University
8.) Randolph Macon College
9.) Lehigh University
10.) University of Florida
11.) Vanderbilt University
12.) University of Georgia
for the complete list:
http://www.princetonreview.com/schoollist.aspx?type=r&id=724
I think there should be a countdown for frattiest drinks at parties(not including beer which is obvious) This would take thought but off the top of my head.
1. Whiskey cokes
2. Franzia or a cheap champagne
3. Ritas/ Beerritas
4. Whiskey sours(for the ladies of course)
5. Hand grenades
I think Princeton Review must have had 40 year old men compiling that list. OleMiss at #5?
That list is not a list of frattiest schools. It’s a list of schools where greek life is key. Huge difference, you’re all fucking idiots.
theta xi you my friend are a fucking tool
Two things that suck:
1.) Widespread Panic
2.) “Fratty” Northerners. All of which either look like this (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/CarGirl/douche.jpg) or dress preppy and call if fratty.
Fratty is not a clothing style it’s a way of life. Buying a pair of brooks brother shorts or seersucker suit does not make you fratty, it makes you a poser. Who invented seersucker? SOUTHERN frat daddies living the frat life before they even knew it was fratty. And why was it invented? Because it was perfect for their LIFESTYLE. You guys in the north can keep drinking your Jagerbombs and Heinekens and and dropping the ball with plan As and we’ll keep sucking down our mint julips, marrying southern belles and hanging out at our families tobacco and cotton farms.
kappa sig sucks
Just to let you know… talking about how fratty you are clearly shows that you are insecure about your frattiness. Clearly the Southerners of the group are a LITTLE inseucre about being the only ones perceived as being fratty.
And ClemsonEXtigers, I’m about 100% sure that you don’t live on a tobacco or cotton farm. If you do, then clearly you are poor because those industries suck in the US.
I laughed heartily for a good 13 seconds at the second section of the post above me.
Phrat:
Do some research on the Philip Morris Company.
1906icecold:
clemsonEX, you misspelled julep you twat
The first paragraph of Phrat’s post pretty much hits an obvious point to anyone reading this… no Northern people have gotten pissed but some of these Southern guys keep flipping out “We’re so much frattier, the North sucks, etc.” Reminds me of a line from good old Bill Shakespeare… “the lady doth protest too much.”
Oh, and whoever mentioned seersucker as proof of the South’s importance in fratty fashion, don’t be an idiot your whole life. Go in a Brooks Brothers, J Press, Polo… that’s Northern style stuff. Just cause one style of shorts and suit came from the South doesn’t make the store or company Southern.
there would be no north v south debate if the north wasn’t so quick to try to quell the south and prove us wrong
no school north of the mason dickson line should ever be even considered for the top fratty schools. I don’t care if it is Ivy league and costs 40K/year to attend I will take my 15k/year education and frat hard at my respectable SEC school. Also I would be interesed in a list of the largest and nicest frat castles in the country. At the University of arkansas Kappa Sig and Sigma Chi have sweet houses and and have over 250 members in each. you can see the kappa sig house at fabulousxi.com Also rednecks are great to have to fix your car, back you up in a bar fight and to hunt with. Here in Arkansas everyone duck hunts and some redneacks have great land to hunt on.
Cotton Production in the World:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/2005cottonseed.PNG
(Vast majority is international or in the Midwest/North)
Same is relatively true for tobacco.
Point is: cotton and tobacco production are not the same as they were in the 1800s. And if you think that individuals are the ones growing tobacco and cotton in fields making buckets of money, then you truly are an idiot. A 7th grader knows about economies of scale; mass production leads to lower prices. Mass production = large companies owning thousands upon thousands of acres.
I knew the south was fratty, however I did not know they were dumb.
Atlanta, I laughed for 26 seconds thinking about the education you must be receiving in your super fratty school in the South. Clearly you need to take some economics classes.
And of course you guys duck hunt in the South! What else is there for you to do?
what else is there for us to do. Phrat you truly are a northern guido why do you think everyone retires to the south we have the best golf courses (example Agusta National), good fishing and hunting, great sports teams to support in the SEC and a great atmosphere and weather to sit out on our deck or go out boating and drink fine scotch and enjoy a cuban while laughiing at the fact that northern d-bags like you are living paycheck to paycheck and trying to figure out how to budget in buying hair gel paying for their prius because it is eco friendly and paying for your wifes shopping spree at wal mart and target that nearly forced you to declare bankruptcy. please do us good ol boys from the south a favor and pull double shifts at your job making 7.50 and hour so you have less time to get on here and humiliate yourself and the rest of the north even though it does give me some entertainment while nursing my hangover from the previous night
Phrat, you try way too hard man. Seriously, get a life and stop getting so heated about the shit on the page. Your uber, over zealous remarks to anything anyone says about the north shows that you have no life and sit around your computer all day waiting to reply……. which, if you haven’t figured out by now is NF. Get a life man, it’s the summer.
To change topics a bit, Doug… I’m looking forward to the 099 article, and wanna throw out the topic: what is the funniest rush week story that other guys can think of?
In closing, frat hard guys… all of us are looking at the best week of the year coming up here in about 2 to 3 weeks. I don’t know about other schools and what you do, but here at UT the first day of rush week is known as “panty dropping monday”, by not only fraternity men but by sorostitutes as well, so hope it goes respectively as well for the rest of you.
Well Phrat, I don’t know what part of my post lead you to believe that I go to school in the south or that I was receiving a sub par education. Clearly you need to stop relying on your intuition, because I left the south to go to Cornell and know my fair share about economics.
lulz @ phrat
Hogwild,
Maybe if you actually played golf on nice courses instead of watching the Masters on TV you’d know where the nicest courses in the US are…
http://search.golf.com/top-courses-and-resorts/top-100-us-courses-2007.html
South has 2 courses in the Top 20… before you say something completely dumb next time Google it to make sure you’re not being a total dick.
Btw, I’ll give you that fishing and hunting is better in the south, but unless I’ve watched you on TNN fishing that’s not a good reason to live there.
I don’t want to call you out UTFratty because my Dad went to UT. I don’t sit around doing nothing… I’m interning in New Jersey right now for a pharmaceutical company and am honestly kind of bored.
Hogwild… you’re not worth my time. You obviously don’t know about my life and clearly are showing insecurity by bragging how much money I have. Both my parents are lawyers. I have a great internship where they pay for my housing. You clearly are the one that is not making money if you can “fish and hunt all day… blah blah blah… and be hungover every day”. Some of us responsible people actually work real jobs and make real money. (and just to let you know my house is a mile and a half from where they played a US Open and is known as one of the hottest areas for golf courses in the country)
My entire point of all of this is that Northern fraternities are just as good as Southern. Sure they might be different but who really cares?
I mean bragging how much money you have.
Phrat- almost unbelievable how you called hog-dude out on talking about how much money he has, then you turn around and do the same. A classy gentleman keeps his $ a subtle and private issue, rich or poor. Plus, I’d take caution in revealing too much info on where you live. Some of these good ole boys might have a right mind to burn a lower case t in your yard or something.
Doug- any way you can employ spell check to these posts? I’m cringing here.
Kappa Sig at Arkansas does NOT have 250 people. Hell they only pledged 45 in the fall and before that they were only just over 200. EX does, however.
The north does not compete in the least with the south. How many of you northern queers where jerseys? Let me see a show of hands.
Hogs,
Im lookin forward to row week this year.
any awesome bands lined up yet?
first of Phrat I never bragged about how much money I have I just made fun of the north because there are many people there that make 100k a year and think they are wealthy when in reality they are middle class. The south has ALOT of poverty but also ALOT of old money which is where the whole argument about the truly wealthy living in the south comes from. About the golf course issue i’m not talking about the best 20 im talking overall the south has the best golf in the country i should have stated that differently. South Carolina and Florida although florida is GDI are two of the best golf states in the country. And Northernfrat (is your name serious because the north does not frat hard) I have attended the Masters the last 4 years because my friends dad is a member there and my dad has a membership at southern hills in tulsa which has hosted the PGA Championship and US open and a membership at Chenal in little rock. I play both these courses on a regular basis, also Phrat the US open was at Torrey Pines this year so you are obvioulsy from california and you wear skater shoes, affliction t-shirts and gel your hair. your girlfriend probably even has a tramp stamp and dyes her hair so many colors that even she doesn’t know what color it truly is. Also don’t try and talk shit on me about not having a job because I just finished an 8 week internship that paid very well and i think I am intitled to trowing back a few cold ones the last few weeks of summer and playing golf daily after my two months of hard work. Doug I am interested in the new article and I second that interest about rush stories i’m sure we all have several that are worthy of being posted on here.
hog call- kappa sig pledged 49 in the fall but 60 the fall before that when you add in fifth year seniors that pay out of house dues still kappa sig is right about 250. Sigma chi only took 50 in fall 06 and like 54 last fall so they should be about the same size as kappa sig. but No need for us to argue. arkansas greek life is still strong and kappa sig got awarded this summer at grand conclave as having the best kappa sig house in the country. Sigma chi’s house is amazing too. I heard that you can’t smoke in the courtyard now at EX which sucks but i guess the whole campus is going to that. As for row week bands wont start getting booked until probably october or november but since Kappa sig was on probation last year they will probably go all out this year. Sigma chi’s big party is during derby days so there row week probably won’t be too big. Lambda chi goes all out but will get a rapper and it’s hard to say what SAE, SIgma Nu and Phi delt will do. Phi Delt is getting there house remodled so they probably will either go in with someone on row week or have it at a bar because they are living in the old GladRip dorm.
Phrat, you are a faggot, same goes for you UTFratty. All of you are a bunch of dick sucks running around playing dress up because you wised up once you got to college that wearing graphic t-shirts wasn’t going to get you laid like it was in whatever shitty suburb you came from. Once you started dressing like a normal human being your father started talking to you because he realized you weren’t a dick gobbler like he had previously feared when you joined the cheerleading team in HS.
Phrat: I don’t care what golf course your PARENTS have a house next to, you contributed absolutely 0 to that, and doesn’t impress anyone. Your internship is a joke, I’m sure your superiors think you suck fat hairy asshole for quarters and like it.
UTFratty: panty-dropping Monday? Are you fucking kidding me; that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of. I don’t know which UT you attend, Texas or Tennessee; if Texas I’d pin you for a cock smoking ATO or Phi Psi…if Tennessee you’re still a Phi Psi or a KA, nigra.
Suck one, sparkling wiggles.
KevinEwaltz,
You have taken out-douched TennesseeWhiskey as the biggest buttfucker in North America…congratulations.
On another note, UTFratty attends the University of Tennessee (the REAL UT as it was established first). Panty-dropping monday refers to the first night that freshman sorostitutes are allowed to go out after rush. Thus, panty-dropping monday includes loads of shacking for veteran fraternity men.
So I assume you and this UTFratty character are acquainted. Cute, who’s pitching and who’s catching between the two of you?
KevinEwaltz,
In your infinite wisdom could also possibly have assumed that I go to Tennessee, and by some slight miraculous chance have heard of this mythical panty- dropping monday.
Go to hell you cumguzzling fuck.
That’s the acquaintance I was alluding to; you are quite possibly the smartest brick I know. Don’t get your Monday panties in a bunch…just having a little fun at your expense, no harm meant. Jesus Christ, I hope you don’t suck this much in real life.
there was no kappa sigma grand conclave this summer, it was leadership conference
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/s.php?init=q&sf=r&k=400000000010&n=-1&q=kevin%20ewalt%20uga
Kevin Ewaltz?
Yeah that’s the old Delta Sig UGA fratstar himself. He got outed on Fratty.net/Frattysouth/Oldrow sometime back.
Doug,
Whom did you see Old Crow open for? Was it Dave or one of the other 3?
yea, the other one was some hick looking mother fucker from some shit state
congratulations on completely ruining this site and being the biggest losers in the world. I was on this site before a meeting for my internship today at 1 and since then there have about 50 posts letting everyone know how douchey every single one of you are. Yall must feel like the biggest e-badasses in town.
Here here. And thanks for the clarification, McFrattstein.
hahaha. this reeks of the absolute lowest tier shit ive ever seen. to get back to the topic, if you dont agree with wsp as number one, fuck yourself. all of you other fags, probably go on and do the same. excellent call, doug. great job.
oh, and to the northerners on here that don’t get wsp as number one, we didn’t expect you to. frat.
God dammit you guys need to get a life.
Hogcall, Get a fucking education. “How many of you WHERE jerseys?” About on par for a state school.
Hogwild, Not going to argue with you about what courses you’ve played at since this is the Internet so that’s pretty pointless… but your “better golf in the South” comment doesn’t really hold up even as you go further down the list. I think you mean “you like playing in the South more,” which is a bit different.
Later boys, keep talking about how awesome the South is. But if you want a real education or a job in a city that anyone gives a fuck about, feel free to come up here. Just lengthen the khaki shorts a bit.
As long as you are properly fratty (regardless of what term you use) I’m all for you; and that’s saying a lot because I’m full of hate. lol Seriously regionally rivalry is tiresome when people run out of witty or thoughtful remarks on the subject.
So uh Doug, wanna put this butt poking fest to bed with a new post, like right now? WSP as #1, Jesus, what did you think would happen?
I’m dissapointed theres no Drive By Truckers.
fratty solo artist countdown:
5. George Strait
4. James Taylor
3. Johnny Cash
2. Hank Williams Jr.
1. Jimmy Buffett
lil wayne
Wardamneagle has a damn strong list if I do say so myself
i agree that is a damn strong list. I am glad to see king george on there! He is 56 years old and still fratting hard. And the 1-2 punch w/ hank jr. and buffet…very solid. keep the frat strong gentelman.
L&R
northernfratty, you’re a fag. enjoy wearing your long shorts and bangin trashy girls GDI piece of shit.
I just wish I was as cool as everyone else on here like northernfratty and the hog twins
wardamneagle…just about nailed it…replace strait with jones and james taylor with REK and it’s spot-on
I think we should do a fratty movie countdown. i watched legend of bagger vance last night and despite will smith being in it it was a fratty movie
Animal House would seem to be a natural to make the list.
Who wears short shorts? Pabst wears short short.
pabst said in August 8th, 2008 at 1:03 pm northernfratty, you’re a fag. enjoy wearing your long shorts and bangin trashy girls GDI piece of shit.
northernfratty the only cities i give a fuck about are the ones in the south. i dont care if the yankee breed gives a damn about them or even knows about them. in fact i hope yall dont know about them, that way yall wont end up bringing yer stank ass pollution and fag shit down here. i havent crossed the mason dixon line since i hit puberty at age 7 and a half, and i dont plan on going back anytime soon, i like having both quality of life AND quality of air, something novel im sure.
and sorry to everyone else who responded to me i dont get on this shit everyday. and i dont care if you think im a buttfucker cause its true, your girlfriend wouldnt let me put it anyplace else
this is a sad day for greek life. you know if i wasn’t already in a fraternity and didn’t know about the real greek life, and all i saw was this site, i would think fraternity men were trash. I got on this site when i pledged and it was solid but now that i have looked back at it i realize the kind of GDI-style filth that collects in other fraternity houses around the country.
Yea hogcall, Drive by Truckers, North Mississippi Allstars have surprisingly not been mentioned in this post yet.
Nobody in my fraternity knew who WSP was!!!!
No jimmy, it’s a sad day for greek life when a bunch of guys in the South flip out over a website. And if you’d have based your opinion of frats from the Internet, you’re dumber than I already assumed you were for going to whatever state school you go to.
The fact that you call it a frat, makes you unfratty. Go watch hockey.
so i am in a fraternity at the university of nebraska. many of us frat with the polos/seer sucker shorts/croakies and what not. and all we do is drink (nothing else to do). does that make NE fratty? keep in mind our five national titles in football…
Who gives a good Goddamn about being fratty??? It is not that big a deal. Seriously guys. Have a drink and a smile.
Defining what is frat = NF
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