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[...] Finally, golf is as activity that is both fratty in itself and also breeds other fratty situations. While at the club, a future young professional will have many networking opportunities with older members of the club. What better way to set up a bright post-grad fratting future than by making important connections with business executives over some frat water after a round on the course? Also, never forget…more business deals are brokered on the links than in the boardroom. Since the corner offices of so many corporations and firms are inhabited by fratdaddies, always remember that your ability to frat hard at the golf course will pay off in both your level of fratitude and your ever rising bank statement. Lesson #3: Wedding Season [...]

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Anonymous said in May 30th, 2007 at 8:55 am

I got a wedding invitation from a post-grad fratter for mid-July in South Carolina (He moved to Charleston, TFM). Would wearing a seersucker suit be acceptable or would that be too cliche?

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FrattyFromFertilization said in May 30th, 2007 at 9:02 am

I just went to a wedding at St. Phillips in Charleston and it was packed with old men rocking various forms of seersucker. It was an afternoon wedding though. You’d look like a GDI wearing seersucker to an evening wedding where everyone else is wearing formalwear

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Eric Stratton said in May 30th, 2007 at 10:56 am

Anonymous,
You may wear a seersucker suit to an outdoor wedding occurring on a hot summer day. If the wedding is not outdoors or not on a hot day, then you should wear a traditional suit.
-Professor Stratton

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nothin'finer said in May 31st, 2007 at 10:38 am

Great answer, Stratton. Nothing is worse than a doucebag trying to be fratty by wearing seersucker inappropriately.

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Spaulding Smails said in May 31st, 2007 at 10:54 am

Great advice gentlemen. I attended a frat/sororstitiute wedding last weekend and not only rubbed elbows with some old school fratdaddies, but I also nailed a bridesmaid. I would advise everyone to take the lessons learned in this section very seriously, take full advantage of wedding season and frat as hard as possible.

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Whats wrong with the three A's? said in June 1st, 2007 at 2:32 am

Spaulding is a frat god!!!

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spacious cargos said in June 1st, 2007 at 2:34 am

some people just have it. Spaulding is that guy!!!!!!

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BT said in June 1st, 2007 at 2:39 pm

Sorry for the long post, but I felt obligated to share the story:

One of my brothers got married in Dallas,TX a few weeks. Myself and 4 other actives were groomsmen. We decided to risk management road trip from Alabama to Dallas and it was amazing. We hit up a drive-thru liquor store in Louisiana and the fifth of scotch was nearly gone by the time we got to rehearsal. The rehearsal dinner had all the beer and wine we could drink. We even took a few left over bottles back to the hotel. The next day, we bro’ed out with the groom right up until the beginning of the ceromony; even hit up some batting cages for old time’s sake. The photographer has some nice pics of us in our tuxes where we’re sporting our Costas/ Maui Jim’s and croakies while flashing our Fraternity badges. The reception was amazing. We definitely got drunktaneous at the open bar. We consumed Glennfiddich rusty nails like they were going out of style, convinced the jazz quartet to stop playing sheet music and just jam out, and groped/danced with sororstitiutes. The funniest part was the age gap between the scotch drinkers. Us in our early twenties and the father of the bride and the other old school fratdaddies in their fifties. I definitely received a few compliments for my drink choice & chatted it up with some older attorneys. The cans tied to the back of the bride & groom’s car were natty cans. They weren’t normal natty cans with string through the tabs. Instead, the actives who weren’t in the wedding party stayed back at the hotel room and shot gunned them so we could have places to attach them. After the send off we were chilling outside when the police informed us that “It is a crime in the great state of Texas to have open containers and be drunk in public.” So we took it back to the hotel and drank until it was time to head out at 7:00am

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I banged Charlotte Simmons said in June 1st, 2007 at 3:30 pm

BT,

Truly fratastic, but I’ve got one to top it. Last winter, an alum of my house got married to his sorostitute of choice his senior year. One of those near Christmas weddings, real nice affair. Anyway, he’s going to law school at a different college just about an hour north of where the rest of the brothers and I are still in school. So, there we are at this hotel where he currently lives. After getting drunktaneous, the hotel guys informed us that the ball room was only rented for one day, and we were going to have to start wrapping it up. The groom decides he’s not done partying, so he get an active to call the pledge class we had at the time. That night, the pledges actually did something worthwhile for once: they successfully relocated most of the guests of the party, along with a good number of stolen bottles from the open bar back to the FratCastle, where we proceeded to party, off and on, for the remainder of the weekend.

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Dr Frat said in June 1st, 2007 at 11:17 pm

I am going to a wedding for a post-grad fratter in a couple of weeks and since it is inside I have decided to rule of the seersucker suit. I still want to frat as a hard as possible so as to end up shacking with the one of highest quality sororstitiutes. So would wearing wearing seersucker pants with a blazer be acceptable or should I go with khakis and a blazer.

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BT said in June 1st, 2007 at 11:43 pm

I’ve never worn the pants with a solid colored blazer, but I wore the blazer with off-white linen pants, and a bow tie to a sorority semi-formal. It went over really well with the ladies.

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Scott Grifo said in June 3rd, 2007 at 2:10 pm

What if the reception doesn’t have an open bar? Would frat tabbing then be the best option?

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Tawny said in June 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 pm

I’ll be sending some content. I hope you put it up.

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Topsider said in June 4th, 2007 at 10:13 am

I have a question regarding overseas fratting. I just accepted a fratty job as a investment banker with a mergers and acquisitions firm in Japan. Although this is a good step towards a fratty career, I wonder how it will be possible to frat hard while in a totally foreign culture? Do the rules of fratmosis still apply?

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PrettyinPearls said in June 5th, 2007 at 3:29 pm

I will be attending an afternoon wedding in Charleston in late July. As a seasoned sorostitute, I know that I can’t go wrong with a nice sundress. I was wondering, however, what patterns and colors are appropriate? Is it unacceptable to wear ANY black or white to a daytime wedding?

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Noob said in June 5th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

Can anyone dance with the bride - if they wait their turn?

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nothin'finer said in June 6th, 2007 at 7:11 am

PrettyinPearls,
I think you’re fine as long as the predominant color in any dress isn’t black or white. And though most modern brides ignore this, I would never wear red to a wedding either. Those “rules” were put in place so that no young woman would show up the bride. A lilly dress is perfect, as long as it’s not too sexy. Remember, you will be in a church (well, presumably) and in the presence of people’s grandmothers.

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Eric Stratton said in June 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pm

Dr. Frat,
Since the wedding is indoors, you should not wear any seersucker. However, if the reception is outdoors, you may be able to pull off seersucker pants with a blazer. For this situation, I recommend BT’s safer suggestion of wearing off-white linen pants with a blazer.

PrettyinPearls,
I agree with nothin’finer’s answer to your question.

Scott Grifo,
It is hard to imagine a fratdaddy’s and sorostitute’s reception failing to include an open bar. If such a tragedy occurs and you are stuck with a cash bar, fratabbing is the only way to go. If it has no bar, grab your date and leave.

Topsider,
Congratulations on your new job. Investment banking is a fratty occupation. Fratting abroad can certainly occur, although it will be difficult because of the extreme cultural differences. Do the best you can to raise the fratmospheric level and head back to the U.S.A. when your work is done.

-Professor Stratton

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Steve said in June 6th, 2007 at 8:34 pm

I’m in need of some advice, guys. I’m ready to propose to my girlfriend, but first I need to ask for her father’s approval. I’m not really sure how to go about this. I’ve been dating her for 4 years now… ever since a trip to the lake her freshman year.

Asking the father is a tradition in her family, btw. Her sister’s husband had to ask the dad ( took him hunting). Any advice would be much appreciated.

Steve

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PledgeFront&Center said in June 6th, 2007 at 11:13 pm

One on one fishing or golf trip would be what I’d do–something fun that creates a sense of bonding and approval

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Fratrick said in June 7th, 2007 at 7:30 am

Good answer, PledgeFront&Center, I agree completely.

Steve, just make certain that the event is a unique experience. For example, say your soon-to-be father-in-law has wanted to play Pinehurst No. 2 but has never gotten around to it, try to get a convenient tee time for the two of you. Your forethought/creativity will show him that you’re serious about marrying his daughter, and he’ll surely grant you his approval.

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Doug Neidermeyer said in June 7th, 2007 at 8:46 pm

Steve,

You’ve already got some good advice. Just be careful…because this activity (and the proposal itself) has led many a fratdaddy down the path of douchebaggery (i.e. proposing on the jumbotron).

Do what he likes to do. If he’s a fisherman, go fishing. If he is a hunter, go hunting. If he’s a golfer, go golfing. If he’s in the mafia, watch your back.

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Steve said in June 8th, 2007 at 12:53 pm

I was told by my soon-to-be fiance that he likes to scuba dive… and I know he likes to hunt large game (I only duck hunt, not his thing). I might combine the two actiuvities and take him spear fishing off the coast. After getting a few nice fish we could get onto the deck of my boat and have a drink and discuss marrying his daughter.

II have a few ideas for the proposal. We will be taking a trip to Las Vegas for a week. From there, we will take a helicopter ride to the grad canyon. I might propose to her in the copter above the grand canyon.

My other idea: There is a vineyard that has a wine-tasting and hot-air balloon ride package. I think that it would be amazing to ask her while in a hot-air balloon… and she loves wine.

Sound good? I think it beats the jumbotron.

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Fratrick said in June 8th, 2007 at 1:48 pm

Anything beats jumbotron or a flag behind a cessna

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Sratty said in June 8th, 2007 at 4:07 pm

Steve:

Do the helicopter ride- while the wine tasting part of it is cool, the hot-air balloon is kind of gay. even better- take a helicopter to the wine tasting.

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BT said in June 9th, 2007 at 3:52 pm

I’ll be attending a wedding in New Orleans next weekend & I’m staying at the Maison Dupuy. Can anyone recommend some good bars that are within staggering distance of Burgundy & St. Peter?

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Jonathan said in June 9th, 2007 at 7:22 pm

BT, if your’e in New Orleans hit up Pat Os. Its 3 blocks away from Burgundy on the corner of St. Peter and Royal. One of my favorite bars down there.

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PledgeFront&Center said in June 11th, 2007 at 4:41 pm

I am in the market for a new car and am considering trading in Explorer for a smaller car. While the idea of ditching an SUV is somewhat strange to me, I was wondering what cars you’d recommend. I was looking at the Audi A4 or the Mercury Milan or its Ford counterpart, the Fusion.

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60 Minute Man said in June 11th, 2007 at 5:30 pm

i would def. go with the audi over the mercury or ford

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Howski said in June 11th, 2007 at 5:40 pm

unfortunately most decent smaller cars are jap cars. the A4 is a good choice. why the switch to a small car anyways?

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Tawny said in June 11th, 2007 at 9:52 pm

PledgeFront&center,

You should consider the Jaguar X-type. You can currently get a 2004 (end of a lease) model for under $15,000 w/ 35k miles.

They get over 20mpg in real life, which is better than the explorer.

These cars demand respect and are fast & safe. Since they have all-wheel-drive, you can take them to the mountain for a ski trip.

pics of the car:
http://jaguar.biz-on.info/jaguar_x-type_sport_2005_1.jpg
http://www.thecollection.com/images/models/jaguar/x-type.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/2tn9a9

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PledgeFront&Center said in June 11th, 2007 at 11:30 pm

thanks guys, I was also looking at some Saabs or Volvo. I’m not sure if I’ll end up getting a car or an SUV (either a Grand Cherokee, 4 Runner, Pathfinder, Trailblazer or Explorer), I do like the Audi, but my parents would probably only pay for one a couple of years old at least

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Fratdaddy said in June 12th, 2007 at 9:11 pm

Save the Volvos and Saabs for the Sorostitutes. Go for the used Audi if you want a car. Good choice.

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Fratelli said in June 13th, 2007 at 4:18 am

Jaguar X-type is a high status car you can get for about $15,000 used.

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Doug Neidermeyer said in June 13th, 2007 at 8:19 am

BT,

Hope you have a good time in NO. Prof. Stratton and I organize at least one trip down there a year for our most privy group of brothers and sorostitutes, and the fratting potential in that town is off the charts. We didn’t even think this was possible…but the last time we were there, we frat tabbed at such a high level that we felt our own heads feel a twinge of pressure.

Speaking of Prof. Stratton, he nailed the seersucker question. That answer probably needs to go in the fratty attire section as a permanent addition.

I’m a big fan of Audi’s because they are luxury cars that don’t saturate the fratmosphere. Having one would allow you to frat hard while also showing your unique fratitude.

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RollTide said in June 14th, 2007 at 5:04 pm

Question from a hopefully future pledge. How will pledging affect my ability to see football games? I want to go to all the road games, will pledging still allow me to do that?

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Ed said in June 14th, 2007 at 5:39 pm

Pledges have no problems with going to away games in my fraternity. We only allow them to go if we have a chapter at that particular school, and if they do they must check in to their pladgemaster at 8:00pm the night before the game. If that pledgemaster doesnt need a few hard working guest pledges for the weekend they get to see the game, most of the time they join that schools pledges in their duties…goodluck…

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Anonymous said in June 16th, 2007 at 5:59 am

RollTide, with all due respect to Ed’s post, you will never be another chapter’s ‘guest pledge’ while a pledge at a UA fraternity. I’m a grad student here now and was in a fraternity during my undergrad years. We take pride in standing apart from other chapters. Most likely, you will have to sacrifice some away games during your pledge semester. Come to think of it, even at the home games you won’t be seeing much of the game as you’ll be getting drinks the entire time. Sucks, but it comes with the territory, unless you pledge in the spring.
Roll Tide

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whyaredouchebagsonfrattinghard? said in June 17th, 2007 at 7:09 pm

sounds like a good agreement on the car topic. always remember, jap cars(hyundais and that of the like) are completely unfratty. in fact, buying one should require you to get a personalized plate that reads ‘GDI’. in response to Howskis question, trading in the Frathoe after your college days isn’t a bad thing. it wasn’t until recently that trucks and suvs became classy whereas a high-quality car has always been the trademark of goodtaste and high fratitude. the jag or audi is a good call.

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The Great Fratsby said in June 21st, 2007 at 10:01 am

you could get an 04 c-class benz for about 30 thousand

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Jonathan said in June 21st, 2007 at 11:27 pm

I disagree on the fact that all jap cars are completely unfratty. I traded in my 04 Tahoe on a 05 quad cab Tacoma and I love it. I’ve driven Tahoes, Z71 trucks, and my Tacoma and they’ve all served me well. But in all fairness I am trading the “yota” in on a 07 Z71 Tahoe in a couple weeks.

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EastCoastPrestiege said in June 28th, 2007 at 10:46 pm

BMW’s are the hook and sinker with sorostitutes everywhere. A nice a minimum of a 5 series must be driven. None of this cheap 3 series crap, too many poor people driving those.

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Fratcis said in July 1st, 2007 at 10:35 am

Jap cars are not fratty. A 4 Runner? Are you from California or something?

A Tacoma? A midsize truck? Screams GDI.

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